Wahoo KICKR V5 (2020) Smart Trainer In-Depth Review | DC Rainmaker

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Wahoo just announced their latest generation of KICKR, and it is now the fifth iteration. This new device adds a presser foot to reduce vibration on hard floors and slightly increase movement. It also eliminates the need for calibration by adding a new zero calibration algorithm and increasing the accuracy requirement to +/- 1% (from +/- 2%). In addition, it adds a wired connection option for future accessories to allow direct connection to your home network (possibly eliminating disconnection problems for some people).

As with most new KICKR versions, these changes are rarely swept by nature-this time too. Wahoo tends to make smaller updates year after year, even though it skipped over and launched KICKR Bike last year.

I have been riding the new KICKR V5 (2020) for a while, so I have a lot of ideas and data on how it works and where it might need to be added. Just scroll down or click the big red play button below to get started.

Please note that as usual, I will send this media borrower KICKR back to Wahoo here as soon as possible, and then go out and pick up my own things to add to my growing KICKR series. You can help support the site by clicking the link at the end of the article. There is-let's dive into it!

From the perspective of the entire room, KICKR 2020 does not look like a major upgrade. This is the place to change:

– The new compression AXIS foot system provides more movement (up to 5%) and is quieter on harder floors

-New KICKR Direct Connect wired option for connection (with accessories to be announced)

-New zero calibration software algorithm

– Increase the nominal accuracy to +/- 1% (from +/- 2%)

And... that's it. In the end, this is currently a very small update to KICKR, but for some people who have challenges in connectivity in crowded buildings (signaling), the wired option may be interesting. Unfortunately, the accessory dongle for this network connection is not yet available (more on that later).

In terms of zero calibration design, this is actually very interesting for users and racing cars. So far, their KICKR should be calibrated (rotated) occasionally, especially in the case of large changes in temperature, such as in a garage. Otherwise, it may not be accurate. In addition, the existing KICKR is relatively easy to adjust the accuracy to achieve cheating. Use KICKR V5, zero calibration design, no longer need to calibrate the reason.

Although Wahoo allows you to calibrate, in most cases it is just to calm down some applications that may need it. Yes, KICKR will technically "accept" the calibration command, and even slightly adjust it. However, just like a friend receives an unwanted gift, after a few minutes, it will quietly discard the existing calibration value and calibrate itself back to its normal state. This effectively eliminates the ability for someone to deliberately deceive the calibration value of the race.

Finally, there is the AXIS foot. In theory, these feet can provide more cushioning and allow a little roll. In fact, I haven't noticed this situation yet-at least on training mats. A sense of zero difference (even with the smallest/largest feet). However, on concrete (no cushions), you will get the same number of cushions as cushions. On some floors adjacent to sensitive neighbors, it may also provide a little vibration attenuation, but this is difficult for me to test. Again, stand up later.

As for all reliability issues

, Wahoo said that they formed an in-house dedicated quality team in Atlanta (HQ) and each of their factories, and then added additional processing/engineering inspections. They also said that they tracked statistics in much more detail than in the past. The changes made by these efforts were made when the KICKR 2018/CORE changes were made, and reached its peak (change direction) about a year ago (summer 2019). Wahoo stated that there was no change in quality between KICKR 2018 and KICKR V5/2020, which were produced recently (such as at the beginning of this year). In the end, from a testing point of view, I can do nothing but wait and see. Fwiw, my unit has not been broken in the past three weeks.

Oh, and a quick review, here are the general overall specifications:

-Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart support, including ANT+FE-C, and power/speed/cadence broadcast

-Axle compatibility: 130 and 135mm quick release, 142x12mm and 148x12mm through axles

-Including 11-speed tray

– Compatible with 8, 9, 10, 11sp cassettes (12-speed cassettes compatible with XD/XDR adapters)

– Maximum tilt 20%

– Support resistance of up to 2,200w (at 40KPH)

– The power accuracy requirement is +/- 1%

-Power cord required/plugged in

With this, you can learn all about KICKR V5 in just a small part. The price is the same as in the past ($1,199), and shipping starts today.

This year's KICKR box looks... very good... almost like the previous version of the KICKR box. Except that it is now black and white instead of gray and white. On the top panel, you will see a list of new features:

There are various tidbits about the function on the back:

Although the box I received claims that it has an electromagnetic design (which makes it similar to the KICKR Bike and Tacx NEO series), this is not the case. At least if someone uses a term recognized in the industry, that is the actual meaning. Normally (including Wahoo's past usage), this will apply to KICKR bikes, Tacx NEO series and Wattbike ATOM2020. These designs basically eliminated internal belts and used a series of electromagnetic coils instead of physical flywheels.

In my conversation with Wahoo, they agreed that the term may be incorrect in this usage. Although KICKR does have magnets and does have electricity, no one in the indoor training machine industry would call it an electromagnetic design/flywheel.

Go ahead and after pouring out the contents of the box, you will find yourself here:

It is very neat and can prevent everything from becoming obscure. Here are all the correctly aligned parts on the table:

Inside, you have two additional sets of AXIS feet (one set is already installed on the KICKR), each with a different thickness/deflection.

Then, you have two paper manuals that you may never read (although they do tell you about thickness).

Then there are stickers. These are the key points (more reasons why):

After that, there are thru-shaft adapters and disc brake holder holders:

And power cord/block.

Oh, of course the trainer itself. Don't worry, when we finish this review, you will see a lot of photos of the thing. Please note that although the 11-speed tray is pre-installed on it.

And, if you look closely at the model label below it, you can see that the official name of KICKR here is WFBKTR120-2020 represents 20:

In this way, let's set it up and discuss the basics.

First, put KICKR on the coach mat, and then spread its legs. You can do this by pressing the blue calf lock and then opening the legs on both sides. You can turn it off for easier storage/transfer.

If the ground is not flat, you can also adjust the height of the feet (but you can adjust the height of the AXIS feet later). Next, depending on your bicycle frame, you may need to raise the KICKR slightly to keep it level. As far as I am concerned, I raised it a little bit.

After that, continue to connect. Now, at some point after the launch of KICKR 2018, Wahoo has redistributed power, which includes "Wahoo Fitness" (so far, there is no training company, including Wahoo). It will be very convenient if you have multiple trainers.

However, I like to add stickers to the power supply so that I can see them from a distance across the room (or behind me behind the trainer). Therefore, I took the smaller Wahoo KICKR sticker and pasted it on the top of the power supply:

After powering on, you will see status indicators on the top of the trainer. These indicators indicate power and ANT+ and Bluetooth Smart connections:

Next, go ahead and throw the bike on it. Since this is a direct drive trainer, this means removing the rear wheel and fixing it directly on the cassette:

You can choose whether to use the front wheel set. You don’t need one, although I personally like it because it prevents my wheels from shaking aimlessly.

or,

, So you can also connect/pair, which will simulate the slope of the route and move the bike up and down during the whole process:

But... what about those AXIS feet? Well, technically speaking, it has three sets of feet, each with one foot (the middle strut has an immovable AXIS foot built into it). This is the layout of all three feet (black), and the mounting hardware on the left and right sides:

As you can see from the manual, you have not read yet, the three sets of feet are aligned with three different resistance levels, which are best suited for the rider's weight. I did all my attempts, even though I did many complete rides on the smallest and largest feet.

During installation, the feet will be rotated and then removed with a simple hex wrench. It only takes a few seconds to complete/change.

This is how one foot is stepped very close:

The design of the feet allows you to move up to 5° left and right. The main idea here is to reduce the feeling of external movement (

), there is more help about swinging the ball, which can help extend the coach’s exercise time by allowing your hips to be fine-tuned on the saddle (such as outdoors). In addition, for people who may need it (for example, in some apartments), feet can also help reduce vibration on harder surfaces

So, does the ride feel really different? In short, it's not true. At least not on the training mat-Wahoo kind of agreed with the phone calls I had with them. Training mats can already provide you with more cushioning than this. However, they do (correctly) point out that you will feel more movement on hard surfaces such as concrete.

Indeed, you can see exactly the comparison of the actions in the full video side by side at the top of the post.

Please note that AXIS feet will also be sold separately and will be compatible with all existing Wahoo KICKR trainers (but not CORE/SNAP, because this is another outrigger design). Therefore, if you do have older equipment and want to reduce vibration, you can choose. They are $79.

Having said that, let's start riding. Since KICKR is a smart trainer, it will automatically change the resistance in several different ways, mainly driven by different applications/methods. However, all these mainly boil down to two core methods:

Set a specific power level-205w. In this mode, no matter what equipment you use, the trainer will only stay at 205w (or whatever power you set).

Simulate a specific outdoor slope-that is, a slope of 12%. In this mode, just like outdoors, you can change the gear mechanism to make it easier or more difficult. The wattage is not fixed, only the inclined level.

In simulation (also known as slope) mode, KICKR V5 can simulate 0% to 20% slope, the same as KICKR 2018. Other trainers can now simulate tilts of more than 20% (including simulators that are much cheaper than usual). KICKR), I continue to question how many people actually want to ride such a ramp. Just last weekend, I took an actual outdoor ride, where the road gradient reached 17%. There is no fun in doing this, let alone the 24% tilt that some trainers can simulate.

Most importantly, if you use the default value in Zwift, there is almost no reason why it is important, because it will automatically halve the value anyway. A 10% level feels like a 5% level. You need to change the "Trainer Difficulty" level to 100% to feel it (most people will not bother). What is important at low speeds is that high wattage will increase by 12% or even exceed the increase.

The second mode of coaches is the ERG mode. In this case, the company claims that the resistance is as high as 2200w at 40KPH. Although in fact, you don't care about it. I can barely (maybe) break a kilowatt for one or two seconds. Even most non-professional cyclists will not reach the level of 1,800 watts. The advantages are just a little bit. To put it another way: the number of top players in this game is irrelevant. On the contrary, it is important that it is actually difficult to figure out the metric-this is the ability to simulate high levels and lower speeds (especially if you are a heavier cyclist).

One of the core tests I conduct with all trainers is responsiveness: how quickly does it respond to changes in the ERG model? I usually

With TrainerRoad, although it does not matter which method is used, as long as you are observing large changes in power:

For now, I’ll dive into all the nuances in the “Accuracy” section later, especially

, Although it doesn’t matter which method you use, as long as you pay attention to large changes in power.

What about road feel and noise?

As I always say-personally, it is difficult to distinguish whether I am riding indoors or outdoors. It is still a trainer and I am still looking at the wall in front of me. My brain can only turn off so many things. Nevertheless, many road-like feelings are driven by a flywheel, whether physical or virtual, the size of the flywheel tends to be measured by weight. This affects the inertia and its sensation-mainly when you accelerate or change the acceleration in other ways (for example, when sliding briefly).

After completing all the pre-work, KICKR V5 feels the same as KICKR2018, because...well...nothing has changed there. The flywheel is the same here. As far as people’s satisfaction with KICKR2018 is concerned, everyone feels quite satisfied on the road. Given that it is the same, I am as happy here as before. It is smooth when it needs to be smoothed, and tilts up (or down) correctly when accelerating.

As for the sound? It is silent in nature-just like KICKR2018. The only information you will hear is the interface between the transmission system and the cassette. The coach will not make any sound, but your own bike will make a sound. In general, the sound level will vary depending on how well you maintain the drivetrain. Cleaner and better maintained, the entire trainer setup will become quieter. I included an audio clip in the video at the top.

Okay, all the basics are missing, let's talk about application compatibility.

Wahoo KICKR set the standard when it first introduced trainers and application integration a few years ago, but in reality this is no longer the case today

. Of course, almost every application is compatible with the Wahoo KICKR series in some way, but this does not mean that Wahoo follows all industry norms today.

Therefore, Wahoo KICKR V5 is actually not

these days. This is because Wahoo has not yet implemented the industry-standard Bluetooth Smart FTMS trainer control protocol. But like KICKR 2018, this is more technical than any technology, because as I pointed out-every application already supports Wahoo's own Bluetooth Smart coach control standards anyway. Therefore, from the perspective of the end user, it does not have any meaningful impact on you.

In any case, Wahoo KICKR V5 supports the following protocol transmission standards:

This is used to control the trainer from the app and host via ANT+, and includes speed/cadence data. read

.

This is broadcast as a standard ANT+ power meter, while also including speed and cadence.

Some older applications may still use it to control Wahoo KICKR, which was the beginning of Wahoo, but today most applications will use the FE-C variant.

This is Wahoo's private method of controlling the trainer, including speed/cadence data.

This is broadcast as a standard BLE power meter with speed and cadence data.

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However, the following protocols are supported (supported by Tacx and Elite trainers):

This will broadcast your speed and cadence as a standard ANT + speed/cadence combo sensor. Wahoo will not do this for any trainer.

This will broadcast your speed and cadence as a standard BLE combined speed/pace sensor. Wahoo will not do this for any trainer.

This follows the industry standard Bluetooth Smart FTMS control, which is basically a Bluetooth variant of ANT+FE-C used to control trainers. Wahoo has not yet done so.

So basically, the only meaningful gain from the above is that you can’t pair it with an app that only supports the appropriate FTMS, but I don’t know of any major (or even secondary) that doesn’t support Wahoo trainers’ own proprietary features. To) App Bluetooth Smart is implemented.

In the above content, you will notice that the rhythm data has penetrated into each stream. Wahoo started this work through the Sumer 2019 firmware update to KICKR 2018 and KICKR CORE a year ago. This is convenient if you want to connect to Zwift on Apple TV, because Apple TV has two Bluetooth Smart sensor limitations (plus Apple TV remote control) at the same time. This means you can pair a coach and gain motivation/rhythm/control, and you can also pair a heart rate strap.

Now, before we start the pairing application-you will notice that I haven't mentioned the wired port yet. Technically speaking, it is an RJ25 port (the same external as the RJ11 telephone jack, except that there are more pins inside). However, you cannot just plug it into a 14.4 modem and dial into Zwift. Instead, you need to purchase a separate accessory adapter that will connect to the RJ45 (Ethernet) from the RJ25 port. The adapter is not yet available, and there is no compatible application. Wahoo stated that they hope to get this feature before the end of this year, and the exact price has not yet been determined-Wahoo stated that their goal is to "confirm" less than $100.

The idea behind it is that by using the #donglelife adapter, you can connect KICKR directly to your home network, thus avoiding any ANT+/Bluetooth Smart interference issues. So far, your application will receive KICKR on the same network when you have a conversation with an application partner.

As for not just putting the darn Ethernet port in the KICKR (rather than putting the port on the dongle's port), it sounds more like a timetable launch for easily making the product when it is manufactured. This is hope to advance on the path of evaporation. Nevertheless, it depends on the specific application of the actual application. You may remember that Kinetic implemented a dedicated USB connection port in their Kinetic Smart control trainer a few years ago... and Zwift was silent when using it.

Below, the yellow RJ45 (Ethernet) and the black RJ11 (phone style).

Anyway, when testing KICKR V5 with ANT+ and Bluetooth Smart, I use Zwift and TrainerRoad as my two main apps (these are the two main apps I personally use), and the side dishes for The Sufferfest (The application, Wahoo now owns). In the case of Zwift, I use it for regular riding mode (non-exercise mode, also known as SIM mode). For TrainerRoad, I used it in the structured exercise mode (ERG mode). I carefully studied the nuances of the two in the power accuracy section.

Starting from Zwift, you can see that Wahoo KICKR is not only listed as a controllable trainer, but also listed in the regular power meter and rhythm section. As shown above, you need to pair it as a controllable trainer (also pair it as a power meter).

In Zwift, it can easily handle the rollers of the difficult Titans Groove route on Watopia. Although the body is not harsh for most people, it is a very challenging course for most coaches, because at the beginning its flat part (used for high flywheel speed test), and then the roller Constantly switch to the hills/hills, and then move down to the unit to perfect the cycle. Very suitable for checking the coach’s reaction speed.

At the same time, you will also see the trainer enumerated in a very similar way on TrainerRoad:

In addition, the TrainerRoad skills page about using smart coaches in ERG mode, especially the "gear selection" section:

I strongly recommend that you read this page, or simply make sure you are using the ring: specifically for ERG mode, please use the ring instead for better control. I did all the ERG mode tests, the front wheel is a small sprocket, and the rear wheel is a medium cassette, and there is no problem in TrainerRoad or The Sufferfest. This is my longer workout on TrainerRoad:

Then I did another one in "Festival of Pain". First, in the pairing screen, you can see the KICKR V5/2020 listed:

Then do moderate exercise:

As far as calibration is concerned, you can almost pretend to calibrate from any application.

However, as mentioned above, this is mainly for presentation. The concept of zero calibration is one of the new features of KICKR V5 (2020). Although it cannot be calibrated at all, it is not very similar to KICKR Bike or Tacx NEO, but Wahoo said there is no reason to calibrate it. In fact, Wahoo will use the new continuous calibration system to quietly cover all calibration values ​​completed within a minute or two. In addition to overall accuracy, this updated system also eliminates the various ways people adjust the old KICKR device to increase the power figure for cheating in Zwift or other online competitions (even in large face-to-face competitions). According to Wahoo, the new features behind the scenes include factors such as temperature, as well as the way the equipment reacts throughout the life cycle of the trainer to ensure that it can properly perform self-checks on virtual roads and even thousands of kilometers.

In addition to calibration, Wahoo has its own application that can be used to verify various settings in KICKR and switch settings related to the coach’s functions in the application. To access these files, you will download the Wahoo app on iOS or Android. After entering the application, you will add a new sensor, your KICKR:

If you just unbox it, you may be offered a firmware update, and you should definitely continue with this operation, because it will undoubtedly solve some of the problems I encountered during this review. The update takes about 2-5 minutes, depending on whether your KICKR feels fast.

In addition, there are two other notable features. The first is to be able to use an external power meter to control your KICKR. Essentially, this allows your trainer to match the power meter. I rarely recommend this (almost never recommend it) because it usually results in poor response speed. In addition, my general feeling here is that if your trainer or power meter is so bad that it is important, then you should solve this problem first. For KICKR, I don’t see accuracy issues, so I really don’t recommend it.

The second function is power smoothing in ERG mode. This is basically the appearance of forged power data in ERG mode (for example in TrainerRoad or Sufferfest). Of course, Wahoo will say that it is not forged, but has undergone a lot of smoothing, but in any case, it basically makes everything look very smooth, rather than the reality of artificial and trainer fluctuations. I turned it off in all tests (it is enabled by default) because otherwise I cannot compare the actual accuracy.

In addition, you can also see the trainer's serial number, firmware version, hardware version and ANT + ID. If you are working on a support case with Wahoo, they can also enable remote diagnosis by the trainer for troubleshooting purposes, which sounds a bit good:

Finally, Wahoo's own app can be used to control coaches and record basic exercises. In fact, the Wahoo app is still one of the most widely compatible and data-driven apps, only for recording exercises (even external exercises). It will happily pair with all your sensors, then save the file and upload it to a large number of third-party platforms.

Although I rarely use the app indoors, I occasionally use it for random testing. In fact, even after Strava cancelled support for the sensor last fall, it is recommended as a replacement for its own application.

You can control the trainer in many ways, including in ERG mode (set power point), tilt/slope mode (set% slope) and horizontal mode (set specific level). Although KICKR can be paired as a smart trainer using the outlined third-party apps or bicycle GPS computers (such as Wahoo ELEMENT / BOLT / ROAM), it cannot automatically perform structured exercises for you, but you can:

Aside from verifying that the latest firmware is properly connected to the app and recording data (which it does), I did not use ROAM to control KICKR during any exercise. I think that in general, the vast majority of people are using various third-party platforms such as TrainerRoad, Sufferfest, Zwift, etc. for structured exercise.

As usual, I put my trainer on many power meters to understand how well it handles resistance control accuracy, speed of change, and any other weird quirks in the process.

In my case, I used a master bike in the following configuration:

PowerTap P2 double-sided pedal, Quarq DZero crankset

Favero Assioma double-sided pedal set #1, Quarq DZero crank set

Favero Assioma double-sided pedal kit #2, Quarq DZero crankset

These are all the trainers themselves. Note that because you removed the rear wheel, I also cannot use something like a PowerTap hub for comparison (I usually use it in power meter tests).

In any case, I have been looking for its response in three core applications: Zwift (Apple TV), TrainerRoad (Bluetooth Smart on iPad) and The Sufferfest (Bluetooth Smart). The actual application is usually not important, but the use cases are different. In Zwift, you can gain variability by changing the slope of the road and being able to sprint immediately. This reaction time and accuracy are tested here. In TrainerRoad and The Sufferfest, I am studying its ability to maintain a specific wattage very accurately, and then change the wattage immediately in a repeatable manner. There is no better test than a 30×30 repeated test (30 seconds under high resistance, then 30 seconds under simple resistance).

There are two viewing methods. The first is its response speed to application commands. So, for this, we actually need to look at the TrainerRoad overlay to show when it sent the command and when the KICKR reached that level. This is the level (blue square) sent by TrainerRoad (in this case, via Bluetooth Smart on the iPad), and how quickly KICKR responds:

In general, when it comes to the "accuracy" of the ERG model, I am actually looking at three things:

A) Basic power accuracy: Is the power measurement correct?

B) Power responsiveness: How fast can it reach a given set point (for example, how long does it take to change from 150w to 450w?)

C) Power stability: How stable is it under the given ERG mode setting?

Therefore, from the perspective of KICKR V5 2020, the simple answer to all of these is: In most cases, this is a very good choice.

For example, in terms of response speed, it takes about 3-4 seconds to switch from 150w to 456w, which is almost the same for most cases-almost the same as the Elite Direto XR released just two weeks ago. In some cases, I might prefer 2-3 seconds (both), but I won't be there too much.

The next point is stability. In the case of the above exercise, this is after 45 minutes of relatively hard riding exercise (I’m not sure why I always do this

I worked hard, but... at least I was warmed up. In any case, I am very stable in most cases, and you will see that KICKR is very stable here overall. As mentioned earlier, for these printers, I'm in the small sprocket at the front, which happens to be in the middle cassette tape at the back.

In one interval, it implemented the change in 2 seconds, and in the other interval, it took five seconds (as shown above). But the average is 3-4 seconds.

So, what about the actual power accuracy? Meaning-how does it compare to other power meters? To this end, here is a comparison with Quarq DZero and Favero Assioma power meters (

):

Take a quick look and find that KICKR V5 and Quarq DZero are exactly what I want-KICKR is slightly lower than Quarq DZero (due to missing drive chain). During this ride, the Favero Assioma pedal was lower than I had hoped (in most cases it was lowered by about 10w). After digging into this setting, the reading on the left pedal is abnormally low, which reduces the total power. Next day, I will troubleshoot.

Nevertheless, if we zoom in a few groups, we will see that the three units are very close (slightly reduced Favero's report), but the KICKR/Quarq relationship is set correctly (again, KICKR is set correctly to a few watts) lower than Quarq ).

Everything is super soft as electricity. If we look at the rhythm, it looks close, but it's not perfect. KICKR seems to be 2-3 RPM higher in many parts. There are almost no big deals, no dropouts or major problems. However, one thing needs to be pointed out.

Next, let's take a look at Zwift's riding and compare it with PowerTap P2 pedals and Quarq DZero. This is the fusion of different terrains in Zwift, then to the volcano, then to the volcano, and then back to the town. As a result, you can see the variability of the power supply workload. this is

:

Now, from a high point of view, it looks pretty good, right?

Looking at the tower, I took a look at the mean-maximum graph, which plots the relationship between time and power. This is a good way to quickly see why some content may not be aligned. It does not explain the whole situation, but provides areas that need to be investigated. In this case, I noticed that the peak of KICKR soared in a short period of time and was higher than the other peaks.

Then go back to the main power graph and check some of these surges. Now, I don't call them sprints. No, these are just moderate increases in intensity, usually between 300-400w and sometimes between 500w. You will see KICKR reach its peak at the top. Sometimes it is quite significant, sometimes it is almost non-existent.

Once again, in this first case, the power is about 75w, and then a random code snippet that can be repeated for two minutes with just a touch-10-15w in most cases.

Therefore, a few weeks to quickly update to a newer firmware version (KICKR released the firmware version today), although the problem is slightly less than before, but this data set still exists

In addition, it also introduces a seemingly new question about low-tempo. Although I rarely step on the pedals at 50 RPM, for whatever reason, I will step on the foot with the leg that was slapped during the climb. This actually leads to a sharp increase in power:

You can see the same part below the rhythm graph. When my tempo dropped, so did the accuracy. As the tempo increases, so does the accuracy.

Please note that in the past three weeks, I have seen a surge in two other Zwift rides, with roughly the same intensity. The less you swipe (e.g. steady state riding), the fewer problems you have. And the more you surge (related to team dynamics), the more obvious this problem becomes. I also tested it on three different sets of power meters.

Wahoo said they are studying these two issues and plan to find solutions for future firmware updates. If you return the history machine, it is not uncommon for Wahoo trainers to have this initial inaccuracy around the surge. Actually, the first two months I saw in KICKR CORE and KICKR SNAP. Hope this is only a short-term question. However, at the same time, I think this is great for everyone in the game, because every small leap will provide you with the power of freedom.

Finally, we will complete the "Painful Festival", which is the ERG mode exercise I performed last night. this is

As can be clearly seen above, it includes a large number of vessels with varying resistance. Also, I forgot to start recording the Fenix ​​6 of Faverix 6 during the warm-up period, even though I recorded it twice on another Edge 530. But this showed some omissions later in the exercise, so I skipped the above record to keep it easier to read (but the data is available in the link set above).

Anyway, after zooming in, everything looks fine and fancy:

The responsiveness of this exercise is great, exactly what I want, but the Sufferfest app usually maintains a high power intensity for about 1-2 seconds after the interval ends, and then releases to the rest time. Some applications basically send commands a second or two in advance to make the timing perfect, but this does not seem to be the case here (or the command is not received). Not every time, but a few times is definitely obvious.

Nevertheless, the application is still weird, and they all look good:

However, like all the other tests I conducted on KICKR V5, the tempo still needs some work. Usually 2-3RPM. Again, this is not a big problem, but it is worth noting:

OK-where are we standing?

Okay, so-so. When it was first released, the accuracy here is obviously lower than KICKR2018 (because it will not be affected by surge overuse issues or smaller cadence offset accuracy issues). It will not suffer from low-tempo power accuracy problems.

Are these the main stopper issues? It may not be long-term. Wahoo has a fairly consistent track record that can quickly run in pain through the early accuracy on its coaches, and can usually eliminate them quickly in subsequent firmware updates. But in the end, I cannot predict if/when the firmware update will take place. I suspect that most people may not care (oh, some people even like the extra power boost).

Please note that these power accuracy issues will not appear in ERG mode (Structured Exercise Mode). Therefore, if you have TrainerRoad or Sufferfest or similar products, then these are not problems for you, I can tell you.

In any case, once the firmware update arrives, I will retest and see if it can solve the problem.

I have added Wahoo KICKR V5 (2020) to

. This allows you to compare it with other trainers I have reviewed. For the purpose of this particular table, I compared it with Tacx NEO 2T, Elite Direto XR and Saris H3 (basically top trainers from major companies). You can also mix and match with almost all trainers in the market in the aforementioned/linked product database and create your own trainer comparison table.

Again, remember that you can mix and match all the trainers I reviewed in this tutorial

At this point, KICKR V5 (2020) is essentially a minor hardware update to ensure that Wahoo maintains a period of roughly to update its marquee trainer. Historically, Wahoo has rarely made major updates to the KICKR series, but has made smaller updates more frequently. In this case, the changes are indeed very small-at least until Wahoo releases a wired Ethernet network accessory for users suffering from connection problems.

On the new AXIS feet, compared to simple exercise mats, I just don't see them provide a meaningful change. This is not to say that they are bad-not at all. Anything that can increase comfort, especially for long-distance riding (even progressive riding), is appreciated. But after riding the coach countless times, I couldn't tell the difference when I was on the coach pad. When placed directly on the concrete floor, the difference can almost be felt. almost. may be? Jintian

However, I do like Wahoo's idea of ​​getting rid of the trainer's downward rotation calibration. This method eliminates the important way that people can distort the accuracy of their smart trainers when reading Zwift or other racing apps in a more advantageous way. . Although I really hope that Wahoo can implement a real electromagnetic design on its KICKR bikes (such as the TACX NEO series), the existing technology they use (add a little more polish) should now be suitable.

Before that, assuming Wahoo can solve the accuracy problem, then KICKR V5 may be as popular as KICKR units in the past. I really don't recommend upgrading from 2016 or 2018 KICKR, but if you have an older KICKR, you might consider if you find newer features useful to you.

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Hope you find this review useful. After all, I am an athlete, just like you are looking for as many details as possible about a newly purchased item-so my review is written from the perspective of my use of the device. These comments usually take a lot of time to summarize, so this is a considerable amount of work (and an effort for love). As you may see below, I also took the time to answer all the questions posted in the comments-there are also a lot of details there.

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I also compiled a quick list of some of my favorite or most compatible accessories for this device:

KICKR CLIMB simulates climbing by rising

KICKR CLIMB simulates climbing by raising and lowering the front of the bike, and recreates climbing up to +20% and -10%.

The original coaching desk. They stack great

The original coaching desk. They are great and can accumulate nutrition, phone calls, and other things needed for short or long training rides. It can also fix the tablet to the edge.

The upwind fan is one of those fans

The upwind fan is one of those fans that may be overrated, but it is also just a really good fan. I don't know anyone (including myself) bought something that was not satisfied with it. Super strong, if you forget, you can open it from your phone.

Finally, here is a list of some convenient trainer accessories, most people may not have acquired the smart trainer for the first time:

The biggest benefit of getting Zwift (or FulGaz/etc) on Apple TV is Apple TV, which is the main method of Zwift. Even if you don’t have a 4K TV, this 4K version has more graphics capabilities than the basic version and is worth the extra $30.

This is a super basic training mat, which is exactly what you will see. All it does is stop sweating to reach places where it shouldn't be (it also helps with vibration).

I use Apple TV as a Zwift user most of the time, but I only use it when watching YouTube / Netflix / etc on the trainer. However, the Apple TV remote control sucks. This $8 protective case solves this problem. It is a silicone strap that can be easily grasped, but there is also a strap that can be easily placed on the edge of the handlebar. prosperity!

That's it, some people like front wheel blocks, some don't. I am one of those who do this. I want my front wheel to stay still and not wobble aimlessly. Just pay $8 to solve the problem. Please note that some trainers do accompany them. Please also note that I use standpipe spacers with *per* trainer.

I have 12 such $12 fans floating in DCR caves, and I often use them in rides. They work very well. Of course, they are not as strong as Wahoo Headwind, but I can buy 20 of them at the same price.

One of the most popular coaching fans, comparable in strength to Wahoo Headwind fans, but at a fraction of the price. It does not have smartphone/ANT+/Bluetooth integration, but it does have auxiliary sockets. I have been using it and recently used a similar European version with great success (the exact EU variant I used is automatically linked to the left).

This table is not only a copy of the original KICKR table, but also better than it. First, it has wheel locks (so the damn thing stays in place), and second, it has two bottle cages (also useful for placing remote controls and other things). I have used it as my main training table for a long time and love it. Cheaper is obviously better. Note: The brand varies by country/region, and the service desk is exactly the same.

I have used it for years and use it where there is no big screen or desk, and I only have an iPad or tablet on my road bike bar.

This is the highest value of the training desk so far, only $59, but it has most of the high-end features. It has a multi-layer tablet slot, a bottle cage, a non-stick surface, adjustable height, etc. I like this!

Of course, you can always

! In this way, you can enjoy the ad-free DCR, and you can also access the DCR quarantine video series with backstage highlights, which also makes you great. What's awesome is what it is all about!

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Regarding wired connection, I hope that zwift will be an application that supports this feature. They sell wahoo products and they have a lot of Pro, such as a sander using wahoo equipment, Charles. . Hope they will not forget it.

I am one of the few people who think that a wired connection is the best choice for trainers (if you have a PC as a training device).

Yes, I think Zwift is undoubtedly the most natural choice.

However, as mentioned earlier, they already have this ability among Kinetic coaches... For many years, the only response Kinetic has received from Zwift under many requirements is the sound of silence.

But Wohu and Power Company regret to say that this is not a comparison. Kinetic energy is a big thing to mess up.

I don't know, there are countless examples to see, even Zwift / Wahoo. For example, Zwift has never used the correct way to handle KICKR CLIMB in the game, which is why it feels much worse than FulGaz, which matches the scenery better (smoothly).

It's easy to discard Kinetic's wired ports, but at the same time-why? Zwift kept saying that they wanted a wired port, so Kinetic delivered it, and then Zwift didn't even reply to their email (even if it didn't answer). Then Zwift wanted to know why no other training company wanted to set up a wired port. Why it will be used if you can't get the basic guarantee.

"Zwift won't even answer their emails (even if they type "nope")."...Wow. What kind of B2B relationship does ZWIFT have with training companies? ? ? I am confused after reading this review

After talking to them, each of them repeats the process during the conversation.

If Zwift finishes reading this book and feels unhappy, I will feel very happy because all they have to do is ask these companies to conduct an honest evaluation, and then they will tell them exactly the same thing.

People want to know why the bug has not been fixed in Zwift, and now the attitude towards indoor training machine industry partners is roughly the same

I don’t think it is possible to implement automatic calibration algorithm on older KICKR through firmware update? Or is the old device lacking sufficient hardware, such as temperature sensors, processing power, or functions for this purpose...

This will be a welcome update.

+1

An external ANT+ or BT temperature sensor is not a big requirement for automatic calibration on '18.

+1000 My kicker 2018 has a temperature sensor (tell me what the temperature is when the trainer comes down). I suspect it needs such a large amount of processing power. I hope they are open to the older generation of kickers.

Wahoo’s packaging contains error messages about internal content. This is my favorite running subgraph in endurance technology.

They will sell hellova lotta this fall.

You only need to calibrate the box.

Thank you for your evaluation again. I woke up very early and I hope you can publish this article today... The early birthday present is glad to find it.

I personally hope that Kickr can make one or two major changes to make it unique. After reading the comments, I am still confused between Kickr and Tacx. Over the years, I have found that Garmins’ warranty/service is really great, and I still like the idea of ​​keeping a company. I will digest the comments made and hope to make a new trainer decision in the next week or so.

Thank you again for your praise!

Hope they have figured out the quality. I bought a Wahoo and replaced it 3 times before I gave up and bought Tacx Neo. There was no problem after that. All other Wahoo products I buy are nonsense. There is an HR strap, it only lasted a few weeks. They replaced it with one that lasted for a few months and then died. Back to Garmin. Their cadence sensor will eat the battery as if it is out of date. Complete with Wahoo. If that is a good thing, but all the things I buy from them are rubbish.

They did the same as Wahoo, they lost my last coach,

I am very new to all of this. Although the above comments are amazing in detail and depth, your comments and replies make me completely unable to obtain Wahoo units, so thank you. I am completely new to it and am confused as to what type of bicycle frame and cassette I need to buy, because my 25-year-old Trek hybrid bike is probably not suitable. I have researched all aspects of setting up an indoor bike/sensor/zwift and have been arguing about finding a decent smart coach instead of the cheapest route, but I need to determine which way to go and which bike to buy. I have noticed that they tend to say "Various Shimano, SRAM and Campagnolo tapes", but for those who are not yet cycling enthusiasts (yet), this is not enough.

Interestingly, I am here because I finished Neo and endless squeaking (plastic) and sanding (internal).

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Simpson's old joke "Pobody's Nerfect" has been true for coaches recently (the past 2 years). No coach manufacturer can claim to be perfect, and finding "good guys" in any brand is like a roulette game.

Micro update, really like zero calibration.

Do you want Wahoo to make other announcements? Namely the 2020 winter lineup 2020 Kickr, 2018 Kickr Core, 2017 Kickr Snap.

I am looking to upgrade to snap or Kickr. Therefore, try to decide whether to wait.

My understanding is that this completes the 2020 lineup.

Ray, does this include computers? Will roaming be updated soon?

I think you forgot this bike in the Kickr lineup.

There is almost no opportunity for a major update to Kickr Bike this year. It was launched a year ago, and Wahoo has followed a reasonably consistent two-year cycle in its products.

Yes, I'm talking to the coach. The possibility of KICKR refresh is zero. They have just entered Europe now and have not released planned accessories, such as TT/remote shift levers.

I think even a two-year (next year) cycle is optimistic and may be unnecessary, especially because from a design point of view, I would say that they have the most forward-looking design.

As for the bicycle computer, I don’t expect any ROAM updates, because it has only been used for more than a year (last year, it was announced that it would stop production on May 1st, and it was stopped until July to solve the problem of installation damage.

What about climbing?

There is no chance. To be honest, I'm not sure how they will use CLIMB other than adding the steering function.

Honestly, I hope they will add RJ45 ports.

(In addition, it says "Wahoo said their goal is "definitely" less than", it should be "them" ;-))

yes, I agree. I hope they spent more than a month to sort out this method, and then deal with an adapter. And made a typo very well, thank you!

Thanks for your feedback

I asked Wahoo whether there is still a special (partially hidden) spin-off of the factory, but no clear answer was received. Does it exist or need to have any ideas?

FYI: AXIS feet seem to be usually out of stock at launch (I plan to buy some directly from Wahoo)

A small part of Wahoo DOES’s start-up video was visibly shaky in about 10 seconds

My understanding is that it still exists, although I don't know if it will be overwritten.

AXIS's feet sound as if they are all in September.

My video can be played at any time, but basically I doubt the code at 0:10. Wahoo Mat is a bit crazy, or... there are some creative video works there. On my $20 cushion, it just sinks into the cushion and has no resistance at all.

I guess the weight of the cyclist may also be a factor.

The price of the foot is 60 pounds, I think I can buy a cushion.

Yes, the three sets of feet are roughly equivalent to body weight. I first tried to support my weight with my feet (because it was heavier, it would become harder), and it didn't feel much. So, then I tried the lightest riders, those who might be different on concrete, but on the mat, the mat gave way first.

I think I am heavier than the driver in the video.

It can also depend on how you adjust your side feet. Therefore, they just barely touch the ground or stick out, so they feel stronger

Yes, it may be possible to stretch them a bit and "pre-tension" the springs. But this will be limited due to the relatively flat design of the spring. Therefore, even if you expand more, certain improvements may be part of the Axis design.

Compared to the short-stroke Axis feet, the larger springs we see on other hacked settings (especially the larger inflatable balls) can remain engaged with the raised foot. When switching from left to right, this tends to improve the central switching.

Some people like the more "hard" centered appearance of the short springs, and there is no pretension. But for those who like more travel and a relaxed center feel, longer springs and preloads are useful to achieve this.

A little technical background... Adding an Ethernet port to the product will greatly increase the compliance-related tests you must perform, because the port must be tested for noise and safe voltage isolation. Otherwise, only the power brick itself has the ability to conduct electricity. Noise and safety voltage isolation test. (Of course, when conducting a conducted noise test, the trainer's power plug must be inserted into the power brick, and the entire kit must be tested for radiated noise.) By delaying the release of the Ethernet dongle, Wahoo has greatly reduced the workload Bring the 2020 KICKR to the market, and it may take more time to get the dongle certification.

It makes sense, and it is consistent with Wahoo's claim of delaying the timeline from the manufacturer's perspective.

Can they use USB C to complete the connection? Just curious.

Adding an Ethernet port is not any technical feat. They use a $200 Chromebook and a cheap TV. Obviously, this is an overpriced dongle. Your post reads like Wahoo's PR.

This makes sense, because only an "A" is attached to the FCCID (PADWF113-A).

My Kickr2017 has FCCID PADWF113. Cannot find any pictures with FCCID from Kickr2018.

then

You cannot find a new FCCID for Kicker.

I was thinking the same thing!

You know someone will trip with that cable, at least if it's USB-C, it will be easier!

Are you talking about my comment, or are you talking about Ray's comment? I don't have a dog in the TICKR game, and my coach is H3. ?I used to work for a company that uses Ethernet-enabled products. I can tell you that compliance engineering is not an easy process. Any measures that the product manager can take during the development process, I believe he or she will be happy to do it.

@Terrance, of course. USB C can be done, but other methods need to be used. They may have connected the USB to your computer, or they may have made a general USB that allows you to plug in the aftermarket USB-Ethernet dongle, but I think this is starting to force them to develop software drivers. I really don't know such details.

Almost any time you put a connector on a product, someone somewhere, somewhere has rules about how to test it. Sometimes it's the government, but sometimes it's just an industry group that owns a trademark. For example, if you want to place a USB-C port on the device, you must do the following:

I thought it would be easier to connect USB devices like ant + dongle to the computer. (Very simple driver, because it is just a serial port through)

@Eli, again, I don't understand my knowledge a bit, but I agree that the USB/Serial port converter is very easy to do compared to other options. I want to know whether the use of Ethernet can provide Wahoo with better equipment security than USB for large-scale on-site eRacing activities? Similar to what Concept 2 erg did in the CRASH-B indoor rowing competition.

@DCRainmaker, do you think we might see similar content?

I think everything seems reasonable, but one of the advantages of Ethernet over USB-C is that it can be connected to a tablet/phone/Apple TV/etc... For all these devices, USB is mostly non-entry level. Of course, some tablets may support certain types of USB devices, but drivers are rarely required.

Ethernet (via a dongle or other means) can solve many situations, not just disconnections.

Although I know how to implement it is a bit joking here, I am looking forward to seeing it implemented by Wahoo and the app. I mainly just think that if we fast forward to things like the summer of 2021 or 2022, Wahoo will always have an Ethernet port built in.

Wow.

If there is a review that makes me happy that I bought Neo 4 years ago, then it is it.

1) RJ11 to Ethernet (RJ45)? In whose world does it make sense? Just build an Ethernet connector! ! Prediction 1: This trainer will perform exactly one iteration.

2) We let you calibrate and then give up the calibration! Therefore, there is still no non-calibration device that can correctly end Zwift cheating, because I think that cracking this is a children's game, and repeating the deliberately skewed calibration number every 15 seconds or so. Prediction 2: The next version of the trainer will solve this problem by completely banning user calibration.

3) Peak power reading

4) Power drift at low tempo (I’m a bit suspicious

The trainer seems to read weird at the time of publication due to Zwift (semi-legal) cheating, maybe I’m a bit paranoid here)

5) Imply that it is not a direct drive unit. (As long as the transparency is poor, at least you must have the courage to support your product. Don't pretend that this is obviously not a patented product.)

I know that all trainer companies have experienced ups and downs, but they have experienced 3 years to do this. It seems that some of them need more.

Keep using my Mk1 Neo (never miss any beats), thank you?

Ray thank you again for your praise.

It's nice to see what is/not hot.

That is RJ25, not RJ11-there are obviously 6 connectors in the photo, of which there are 2 RJ11. I very much doubt whether there is an Ethernet chip in it. This is most likely a USB 3 with a custom connector. My guess is that considering all the riders' movements during the ride, they decided to use a latch to ensure the safety of the RJ25. This also happens to mean that you will buy an official Wahoo product for $100 instead of a standard USB C-to-Ethernet dongle for $10. If the wiring here actually has an Ethernet signal, it is not important for anyone using a crimping tool to unplug the cable. If it is actually USB 3, then they can freely create various dongles to connect to other things, such as accessories. What if they released a brake or steering module instead of Ethernet!

They did not imply a direct drive, they said that the resistance is electromagnetic. It is electromagnetic. What Lei said is that the industry has previously used the term to mean direct EM resistance. I have no problem with this because they are technically telling the truth. If we want to distinguish between belts and direct belts, we need a new label-direct drive, so it must be new, but this has nothing to do with the resistance mechanism. I have Kickr18 and Neo 2T, and prefer the feel of belt drive, so I hope they stick to it, because Neo’s setup has many disadvantages. For example, sometimes they interrupt their battery life due to firmware updates, so you have to keep on pedaling or lose power altogether. It also feels gritty at lower speeds.

Please understand some common sense. If someone desperately wants to cheat on Zwift, then they won't waste a lot of $1,200 buying one of the smart trainers, but it's actually difficult to do so. Yes, it overshoots when sprinting. The same is true for almost all other smart coaches.

No, if someone wants to cheat, they will only buy the previous-generation KICKR or other trainers with exposed flywheels to manipulate them during slowing down. If someone wants to cheat, they just need to buy only one Assioma Uno left and set the crank length to 200mm (actually 172.5mm).

Dave – Wow, RJ25 vs RJ11 is good. Very close! Thank you!

I can't believe they will plug an Ethernet dongle into the phone jack for an extra $80. That's ridiculous. I am waiting for the next Kickr update to decide where to start from SNAP. Tacx Neo 2T, yes. I don’t even need a wired connection, which is just contempt for Wahoo’s customers. Who made the decision of the board of directors? Does a guy smoke a cigar with a smile?

Hmm-if you don't need a wired connection, why bother about using an adapter and the potential cost of using that connection?

I dare say that wired connections are related to e-sports events. Wired trainers are the simplest solution to avoid man-in-the-middle attacks that are really easy to do with BLE or ANT+.

Given that the Axis feet are suitable for older Kickers, does this mean that the geometry of the new Kicker is the same as the old one?

In particular, I want to know if the new Kickr is compatible with Inside Ride E-Flex. When my Kickr '16 wears out to the day when it needs to be replaced, it may be easier to purchase Kickr '20.

Place them side by side, and from the perspective of the leg geometry, they look the same. I did not try to remove the middle front foot (you can use InsideRide to do this, but I'm sure this might be possible.

Will be available in wahoo-shop soon (if you really need it):

It will be available in Wahoo-Shop soon (if you really need it):

Do you have any indication that they will use the port for any operation other than interacting with the application via the Internet? For example, some kind of special hardware/accessories?

All parts of the conversation are purely directed to application connections, especially to applications on the same local network.

This reminds me of a question I have always wanted to ask. For Kick '18, is Wahoo's speed reduction preferable to Zwift's speed reduction?

Thank you!

I noticed this high-power, low-tempo thing on alp du zwift and my kicker 2017. I am setting the power PR, which seems too easy. So... I'm not sure this is just the key to 2020. However, since I have been using the power meter, I haven't discussed it for a while.

So, if the Axis feet don't make sense (I use them as an add-on to my 2018 KICKR), what do we think about the swing board? I have already laid a thick gymnasium on the floor, so it looks like a mat

Great review! Will there be updates on Kickr Core?

Rays,

The comparison table seems to have Neo 2 instead of 2T.

Why do they put the telephone jack on the network jack, or the USB port, which is better in my opinion? Is it not enough just to have a USB connected to my computer like the ANT dongle? I think this is almost a plug-and-play solution to this problem. Of course, for those who want to use a phone or AppleTV, this does not solve the problem, because I don't think you can connect the USB port to those people.

It is guessed that RJ11 is purely used to insert copper wire worth 4 wires into the trainer at low cost. The dongle of the future may complete all the processing required to become a good citizen on the customer's LAN.

Errors can be reasonably prevented because the voltage of the telephone line may not damage the trainer, and vice versa. After throwing away the user manual and packaging materials, the user will still hint that it is related to a certain degree of communication.

Until the phone rang and they did not design to increase the voltage :-p

Hi, Lei, you repeatedly stated:

"The most important thing is that if you use the default values ​​in Zwift, then most things don't matter, because it will automatically halve the value anyway. A 10% level feels like a 5% level. You need to change the "Trainer Difficulty" level to 100% to feel it (most people will not bother)."

I want to know if this is really your feeling of riding it with less than 100% difficulty, or if this is just your way of expressing it.

The way I read your statement is that you said that it is easier to climb a virtual hill until it reaches the wattage, and from what I have been reading online, a lower "difficulty" setting will only make the ride as easy as possible. The number of gear changes required. Regardless of the setting, the resistance you have to overcome is the same. I even read that some professionals lower it so they can put it in a higher gear before the top of the mountain reaches the highest point so they won't spin.

I want to know your opinion on this.

"Regardless of the setting, the resistance you have to overcome is the same."

This is the incorrectness of your original correct understanding.

The resistance is set based on the rider's weight entered in Zwift and the displayed road slope (and adjusted by the "Instructor Difficulty" setting).

In the case of 100% TD and a slope of 10%, Z will provide you with an equivalent resistance related to mathematics. This may force you to use lower gears unless you want more pedal force and lower cadence.

With a TD of 0% and a slope of 10%, Z will give you the same precise resistance when rolling on a flat 0% road. The resistance you experience will never change in the game.

This means that the pedal resistance will never change. You will fully control your resistance by selecting gears, and will not be affected by changes in the road slope in the game. You can effectively scroll with the same gear and rhythm throughout the course without any changes. However, you will see a huge change in speed based on the slope of the road.

The mistake people get rid of is "easier". In a sense, this may be correct if you look at it from changing or not changing (or reducing the change in the default 50% TD setting). However, if you are completely concerned about your propulsion in the game and keep pace with other drivers, then you are still forced to consume X watts to increase Y kph by Z%. Therefore, I don't think it is easier unless you are alone and don't want to transfer.

The math has not changed, you still have to put in the same effort. The only real impact is how you change gears on the bike and whether you "feel" the hillside feedback.

Does anyone want to ride this thing voluntarily for 6-8 weeks and report whether it blows the power transmission belt and screams like the 2 2018 Kickrs I did?

Volunteer, yes. Pay yourself to make guinea pigs, no ?

Seriously, I do hope that they can solve the fault problem, but I have been skeptical before we have used these faults extensively for months.

Does it work without plugging in? I know that I will not encounter resistance when going downhill, but if I step on the pedal, will everything else work under my own push?

The reason is that there is no power in my garage

No, unless there is electricity, there will be no electricity data. In this sense, it is the same as all previous Ki

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